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July 08, 2011

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I agree that many middle class jobs in many industries don't require a four-year degree, but are they jobs in demand?

In the United States, we don't have enough scientists, engineers, and other high skill roles that keep us a globally competitive nation.

We don't train and educate enough of the populations who have been historically marginalized in under-represented fields such as women and minorities.

Every high school student doesn't need to go to college, but they should be prepared to and be ACCEPTED into a college. It's up to them if they go or not, but at least the school they attended did there job and not keep them stuck 20-30 years later in the same economic class from there freshman year in high school.

Hi Kalimah, This is a really great point. There are a lot of high-skills jobs that Americans aren't being prepared for, like engineering, and we absolutely should strive to get more non-traditional people into those jobs, including people of color and women. The problem Max wrote about -- and that I was tackling, in many ways, in my Nation piece -- is what to do with older kids, in their teens, who have already been denied a high-quality education and are years behind in basic academic skills. For those kids, we may want to direct them more explicitly toward careers that don't require a 4 year degree.

You have raised an issue that's also relevant to non-minority HS students. The "college for all" refrain is demoralizing for students who prefer technical rather than academic learning. Even in "good" school systems, there are plenty of HS students who can not realistically expect to do well in college, and they are offered no alternatives at all. In our (praiseworthy) attempt to get as many students as possible, and especially those who have been denied in the past, to attain a 4-year degree, we are damaging young people for whom that is not a realistic (or even desired) option.

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